Comments on: The Joy of the Lord https://jarodhinton.com/the-joy-of-the-lord/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-joy-of-the-lord Biblical perspectives from parenting to politics Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:29:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: PreacherBoy80 https://jarodhinton.com/the-joy-of-the-lord/#comment-822 Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:29:00 +0000 https://preacherdad.com/the-joy-of-the-lord/#comment-822 Obedience comes from keeping. We often read the word “keep” and immediately think “obey”. The NIV even translates that word as “obey” which really messes up the meaning. The word “keep” in Hebrew, Greek, and English, means to observe, to look at intently, to guard. (Basically.) If I say “Would you please keep this pen for me?” I am not saying “Please obey this pen.” The word does not mean that.

Obedience grows out of the keeping. Keeping the commandments does not mean we do not obey them. We certainly do obey them. But how do we obey them? By keeping them. Do you see the difference? Jesus did not say “I want you to obey my commandments.” He said we are to keep them. That means our focus is not on obedience, but on keeping them. (Meditation is a great way to keep them.) The obedience will naturally come, but only as God empowers us to be obedient. He empowers us to be obedient through our relationship with him and our faith in Christ. Our faith, and our relationship with him, grows when we meditate upon his Word. (i.e. Keep the Word.) “Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.”

Matt, you said it pretty well, but that is a little more explanation.

]]> By: NO_TheOtherMatt https://jarodhinton.com/the-joy-of-the-lord/#comment-821 Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:06:00 +0000 https://preacherdad.com/the-joy-of-the-lord/#comment-821 I think Jarod was bringing up the point that he has made before that keep does not mean obey.  Obeying is only part of it.  In order to keep the commandments you must also obey them.  But keep means more than just obey.  I think it would have been more accurate to say “(not JUST obeying but keeping)”.  Ok Jarod, go ahead and explain keeping and obeying.  Maybe it would work for another post.  But then again you have been known for long comments before.    You can explain it better than I can.

I like what you said about abiding in Christ and having His joy in us.  Good stuff.  See ya later bro.

]]> By: MrXangO https://jarodhinton.com/the-joy-of-the-lord/#comment-820 Thu, 26 Oct 2006 00:53:00 +0000 https://preacherdad.com/the-joy-of-the-lord/#comment-820 So, Jarod.  Taking another look at this verse:  If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love.”    Did Jesus then “not obey” his Father’s commandments??  There has to be some correlation between keeping and obeying, if Jesus is our example in this regard.  I think saying “(not obeying, but keeping)” may run dangerously close to communicating a cavalere(sp?) attitude toward the importance of walking, as Jesus did, in obedience to the Father. 

Lovingly,

Your proud Dad

 

]]> By: keara06 https://jarodhinton.com/the-joy-of-the-lord/#comment-819 Thu, 26 Oct 2006 00:32:00 +0000 https://preacherdad.com/the-joy-of-the-lord/#comment-819 Thank you for the chat earlier. As I read through your sermonettes, I can definitely learn from them. As I’ve always said Jarod, I’ve always looked up to you and Matt, so I am taking this opportunity from God and learning from what you are writing. Thank you so much Jarod!

-Mel

]]> By: LLroomtempJ https://jarodhinton.com/the-joy-of-the-lord/#comment-818 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:24:00 +0000 https://preacherdad.com/the-joy-of-the-lord/#comment-818 How are you differentiating between obeying and keeping?

nice sermon, jrod.

]]> By: twoBlondes_andaBrunette https://jarodhinton.com/the-joy-of-the-lord/#comment-817 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:59:00 +0000 https://preacherdad.com/the-joy-of-the-lord/#comment-817 okay…way cool illustration!  Very interesting and goes great with your point.  🙂  Good job buddy!

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